Anything preventing me from going this way?
Nothing, as long as you trust the source that you will be downloading it from and the source they copied it from if they didnāt compile the library themselves.
Have no way of determining whether that source is trustworthy so Iāll wait for Siosios to perhaps post some about it.
Updated NetData to the latest for Ipfire core 173 and 172ā¦ this is the standard package (nothing added) that installs to /opt
netdata-1.38.0-1.ipfire for core 173
netdata-1.38.0-1.ipfire for core 172
EDIT: Sorry the mistake was on my end, i built this package on core 173. I am going to restructure the GitHub repository and create core folders to reflect what core Netdata was built on, But I cannot edit the links on my previous posts to reflect the changes to the file structure on github.
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I figured as much, no problem. As long as we know for what version it will work. 
How does that handle spaces in links?
wget https://github.com/siosios/Netdata-on-Ipfire/raw/main/core 172/netdata-1.38.0-1.ipfire
--2023-02-12 09:59:38-- (try: 2) http://172/netdata-1.38.0-1.ipfire
Connecting to 172|0.0.0.172|:80... ^[failed: Connection timed out.
Retrying.
Does not work
wget https://github.com/siosios/Netdata-on-Ipfire/raw/main/core%20172/netdata-1.38.0-1.ipfire
Works
Perhaps something to avoidā¦
And also some cleaning recommended
but, after restarting with wget and all that:
Now to read up and make some conf
Thank you @siosios 
Btw, will the internal update work with this approach or is it not recommended?
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LoL, Iām just full of mistakes this monthā¦ corrected. Not sure what cleaning your recommending from the screenshot. The internal update wonāt work since you canāt compile it, Ipfire does not have the tools installed to do it.
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I can be a bit picky about cleaning out irrelevant files.
Thanks, I suggest you make a note of the NetData update not being functional, if you did not alreadyā¦
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@siosios thanks and respect for your work, but what is the difference between using your package and installing netdata via kickstart script?
Iāve been using netdata for a long time, installed and regularly updated via kickstart without any problems.
Kind regards, Nicky
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you were able to use kickstart on an ipfire system? ipfire doesnāt come with the tools to build netdata on the actual machine its installed on which is why i keep up with this package.
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interesting, ill load up a test system and test it.
Ok, the installer does actually install now on ipfire as it did not in the past. This is now a dead package thread
@nicky_s thanks for pointing that out, i havent tested the installer for quite some time.
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Iām sorry for that
Nevertheless, thank you very much for your commitment
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Kinda sorry to hear that, considering the work you put in, but on the other hand I am pleased with a solution that so far seems to be available from the original developer, thus, perhaps, you or Ipfire Team do not need to put much efforts in maintaining it.
Find something else? 
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Iāve just tried out the kickstart installer. It doesnāt give a full installation. āauto-updateā for example doesnāt work.
For automatic updates iāve put the install command into cron for daily checks
the script checks for an existing install and necessary update
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why not use the updater script in cron
ln -sf /opt/netdata/usr/libexec/netdata/netdata-updater.sh /etc/fcron.daily/netdata-updater
if you test it youāll see it tries to update
[root@ipfire-test etc]# ln -sf /opt/netdata/usr/libexec/netdata/netdata-updater.sh /etc/fcron.daily/netdata-updater
[root@ipfire-test etc]# cd fcron.daily
[root@ipfire-test fcron.daily]# ls
info.txt netdata-updater openvpn-crl-updater trim
[root@ipfire-test fcron.daily]#
youāll also need to build the startup script for /etc/rc.d/init.d
#!/bin/sh
# SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-3.0-or-later
#
# netdata Real-time performance monitoring, done right
# chkconfig: 345 99 01
# description: Netdata is a daemon that collects data in real-time (per second)
# and presents a web site to view and analyze them. The presentation
# is also real-time and full of interactive charts that precisely
# render all collected values.
# processname: netdata
# Source functions
. /etc/sysconfig/rc
. $rc_functions
DAEMON="netdata"
DAEMON_PATH=/opt/netdata/bin
PIDFILE_PATH=/opt/netdata/var/run/netdata
PIDFILE=$PIDFILE_PATH/$DAEMON.pid
DAEMONOPTS="-P $PIDFILE"
STOP_TIMEOUT="60"
[ -e /etc/sysconfig/$DAEMON ] && . /etc/sysconfig/$DAEMON
LOCKFILE=/var/lock/subsys/$DAEMON
service_start()
{
[ -x $DAEMON_PATH ] || exit 5
[ ! -d $PIDFILE_PATH ] && mkdir -p $PIDFILE_PATH
chown netdata:netdata $PIDFILE_PATH
echo -n "Starting $DAEMON..."
loadproc $DAEMON_PATH/$DAEMON $DAEMONOPTS
RETVAL=$?
echo
[ $RETVAL -eq 0 ] && touch $LOCKFILE
return $RETVAL
}
service_stop()
{
printf "%-50s" "Stopping $DAEMON..."
killproc -p ${PIDFILE} $DAEMON
RETVAL=$?
echo
[ $RETVAL -eq 0 ] && rm -f ${PIDFILE} ${LOCKFILE}
return $RETVAL
}
condrestart()
{
if ! service_status > /dev/null; then
RETVAL=$1
return $RETVAL
fi
/etc/rc.d/init.d/netdata stop
/etc/rc.d/init.d/netdata start
}
service_status()
{
statusproc $DAEMON
}
service_status_quiet()
{
statusproc $DAEMON >/dev/null 2>&1
}
case "$1" in
start)
service_start
;;
stop)
service_status_quiet || exit 0
service_stop
;;
restart)
service_stop
service_start
;;
try-restart)
condrestart 0
;;
force-reload)
condrestart 7
;;
status)
service_status
;;
*)
echo "Usage: $0 {start|stop|restart|try-restart|force-reload|status}"
exit 3
esac
this code works but not if you modified where the install put all the files
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ah cron that mystery thing I never grasped.
Will give it a shot. How do you see if it ran?
I was wondering, how does this work with the standard backup.cgi ? It can generate an ISO, but will that include extra stuff like Netdata?
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Be aware there is a bug with the ISO based backup where the dhcp server configuration restore and the installation input result in a dhcpd.conf file with an faulty routers line that prevents dhcpd from being started.
https://bugzilla.ipfire.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12757
If the routers line is manually edited from the console then dhcpd will properly re-start.
Any extra stuff is only backed up if you add it into the /var/ipfire/backup/include.user file.
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