# Miniupnpd deprecated

**URL:** <https://community.ipfire.org/t/miniupnpd-deprecated/5707>\
**Category:** Add-Ons\
**Created:** [28 June 2021 17:12 UTC](https://community.ipfire.org/t/miniupnpd-deprecated/5707 "2021-06-28T17:12:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![pmueller](https://community.ipfire.org/user_avatar/community.ipfire.org/pmueller/32/9019_2.png) [@pmueller](https://community.ipfire.org/u/pmueller)\
**Post date:** [1 August 2021 17:21 UTC](https://community.ipfire.org/t/miniupnpd-deprecated/5707/4 "2021-08-01T17:21:36Z")

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Hi,

> [@phane](#):
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> There is no way other than the use of upnp to allow more than one Xbox or Playstation to have full network access.

not being a gamer myself, I am pretty sure there is one: Put the device into a dedicated network zone, and configure IPFire to forward traffic to any incoming port to this device.

> [@phane](#):
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> If you’re going to deprecate features based upon them being a security risk by design, why not eliminate port forwarding entirely? Obviously, the reason you couldn’t do that is that it would completely destroy people’s ability to be connectable from the outside. So you have to give people the ability to shoot themselves in the foot, because not doing so would break their internet.

You apparently have no idea what you are talking about. UPnP is completely different from manually created port forwardings.

> [@phane](#):
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> My network relied on miniupnpd and it’s removal has broken a lot of functionality. If you guys aren’t going to restore it, I’ll have to try to migrate to pfsense.

Well, we are doing security here. This is what IPFire is for.

If you think your wisdom is greater than ours, spending hours and hours on the phone to protect our users, and having done so for years: Go ahead and use something else.

Thanks, and best regards,  
Peter Müller

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