# Core Update 191 and Samba

**URL:** <https://community.ipfire.org/t/core-update-191-and-samba/13549>\
**Category:** Add-Ons\
**Created:** [3 February 2025 23:30 UTC](https://community.ipfire.org/t/core-update-191-and-samba/13549 "2025-02-03T23:30:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
**Page:** 1

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![shazaam](https://community.ipfire.org/user_avatar/community.ipfire.org/shazaam/32/10034_2.png) [@shazaam](https://community.ipfire.org/u/shazaam)\
**Post date:** [3 February 2025 23:30 UTC](https://community.ipfire.org/t/core-update-191-and-samba/13549/1 "2025-02-03T23:30:14Z")

</div>

At first I thought libtalloc had gone walkabout with core 191, Yet looking at the error, it seems to be a mere typo.

nmbd smbd & winbind all fail to load the talloc library from:

/usr/lib//samba/libtalloc.so.2 `TALLOC\_2.3.5’

Note the //samba

Seems a path issue & a fix would be ever so nice.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![arne\_f](https://community.ipfire.org/user_avatar/community.ipfire.org/arne_f/32/12760_2.png) [@arne\_f](https://community.ipfire.org/u/arne_f)\
**Post date:** [4 February 2025 07:02 UTC](https://community.ipfire.org/t/core-update-191-and-samba/13549/2 "2025-02-04T07:02:57Z")

</div>

Which arch did you use and on which pakfire tree you are?

At my systems samba is working. (there was a libtalloc problem in the testing phase but this should be fixed with samba pak 107)

Also current version of samba should build against libtalloc 2.4.2 not 2.3.5

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![bonnietwin](https://community.ipfire.org/user_avatar/community.ipfire.org/bonnietwin/32/12350_2.png) [@bonnietwin](https://community.ipfire.org/u/bonnietwin)\
**Post date:** [4 February 2025 07:09 UTC](https://community.ipfire.org/t/core-update-191-and-samba/13549/3 "2025-02-04T07:09:57Z")

</div>

> [@shazaam](#):
>
> Note the //samba

A double slash in Linux is just ignored and not treated as an error. It is just treated as a single slash.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![shazaam](https://community.ipfire.org/user_avatar/community.ipfire.org/shazaam/32/10034_2.png) [@shazaam](https://community.ipfire.org/u/shazaam)\
**Post date:** [4 February 2025 13:34 UTC](https://community.ipfire.org/t/core-update-191-and-samba/13549/4 "2025-02-04T13:34:07Z")

</div>

Just used Pakfire to install the updates. Nothing special going on. Old computer. The version error must be from the 191 update as 190 worked.  
 ![Samba2](https://community.ipfire.org/uploads/default/original/2X/3/392b1dd331258fc36f7a67fa4510f57fdd869c45.png)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![shazaam](https://community.ipfire.org/user_avatar/community.ipfire.org/shazaam/32/10034_2.png) [@shazaam](https://community.ipfire.org/u/shazaam)\
**Post date:** [4 February 2025 13:34 UTC](https://community.ipfire.org/t/core-update-191-and-samba/13549/5 "2025-02-04T13:34:47Z")

</div>

System ID:

 ![Samba1](https://community.ipfire.org/uploads/default/original/2X/e/ea506136dd22d78e79c911ee091db645f81be66c.png)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![arne\_f](https://community.ipfire.org/user_avatar/community.ipfire.org/arne_f/32/12760_2.png) [@arne\_f](https://community.ipfire.org/u/arne_f)\
**Post date:** [4 February 2025 17:08 UTC](https://community.ipfire.org/t/core-update-191-and-samba/13549/6 "2025-02-04T17:08:40Z")

</div>

I have again tried to reproduce this.

Installed a fresh core190 and samba and then update to core191.  
Samba works without problems.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![digiz222](https://community.ipfire.org/user_avatar/community.ipfire.org/digiz222/32/15358_2.png) [@digiz222](https://community.ipfire.org/u/digiz222)\
**Post date:** [5 February 2025 00:06 UTC](https://community.ipfire.org/t/core-update-191-and-samba/13549/7 "2025-02-05T00:06:02Z")

</div>

Yes update from 190 to 191 works. Samba is not working in 191 clean install. Can not change workgropup, wgui service shows warning.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![shazaam](https://community.ipfire.org/user_avatar/community.ipfire.org/shazaam/32/10034_2.png) [@shazaam](https://community.ipfire.org/u/shazaam)\
**Post date:** [5 February 2025 21:21 UTC](https://community.ipfire.org/t/core-update-191-and-samba/13549/8 "2025-02-05T21:21:51Z")

</div>

OK, so looking like a clean install w/190 might be the fix. 191 has issues…

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![arne\_f](https://community.ipfire.org/user_avatar/community.ipfire.org/arne_f/32/12760_2.png) [@arne\_f](https://community.ipfire.org/u/arne_f)\
**Post date:** [6 February 2025 06:47 UTC](https://community.ipfire.org/t/core-update-191-and-samba/13549/9 "2025-02-06T06:47:21Z")

</div>

> [@digiz222](#):
>
> Samba is not working in 191 clean install. Can not change workgropup, wgui service shows warning.

I cannot reproduce this.

Also samba is an addon and has nothing to do with core190 or 191. At a fresh install the same samba-\*-107 addon will installed.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![bonnietwin](https://community.ipfire.org/user_avatar/community.ipfire.org/bonnietwin/32/12350_2.png) [@bonnietwin](https://community.ipfire.org/u/bonnietwin)\
**Post date:** [6 February 2025 16:22 UTC](https://community.ipfire.org/t/core-update-191-and-samba/13549/10 "2025-02-06T16:22:08Z")

</div>

I did a fresh install of CU191 and then installed samba and had no problems. It installed and started.

I also cannot reproduce the issue being talked about.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![digiz222](https://community.ipfire.org/user_avatar/community.ipfire.org/digiz222/32/15358_2.png) [@digiz222](https://community.ipfire.org/u/digiz222)\
**Post date:** [6 February 2025 18:32 UTC](https://community.ipfire.org/t/core-update-191-and-samba/13549/11 "2025-02-06T18:32:04Z")

</div>

I saved settings before disabled samba, maybe this is a cause. I disabled samba next time, but it was to late.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![bonnietwin](https://community.ipfire.org/user_avatar/community.ipfire.org/bonnietwin/32/12350_2.png) [@bonnietwin](https://community.ipfire.org/u/bonnietwin)\
**Post date:** [6 February 2025 19:29 UTC](https://community.ipfire.org/t/core-update-191-and-samba/13549/12 "2025-02-06T19:29:43Z")

</div>

> [@shazaam](#):
>
> nmbd smbd & winbind all fail to load the talloc library from:
> 
> /usr/lib//samba/libtalloc.so.2 `TALLOC\_2.3.5’

I think you need to show us the actual error message that you got.

libtalloc.so.2 is not in /usr/lib/samba/ it is in /usr/lib/

What do you get when you run the commands

```auto
ls -hal /usr/lib/libtalloc*
ls-hal /usr/lib/samba/libtalloc*

```

These will show the libtalloc libraries installed on the system you are having problems with.

What do you get when you run

```auto
ldd /usr/sbin/smbd | grep libtalloc

```

This will show which libtalloc libraries samba is linked to and where they are located.

> [@digiz222](#):
>
> I saved settings before disabled samba, maybe this is a cause.

You do not have to disable samba before doing a backup. I never have and have not had any problem when doing a backup or a restore.  
The backup does not save any of the libraries, so doing a restore will not change any of the libraries.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![bonnietwin](https://community.ipfire.org/user_avatar/community.ipfire.org/bonnietwin/32/12350_2.png) [@bonnietwin](https://community.ipfire.org/u/bonnietwin)\
**Post date:** [6 February 2025 20:47 UTC](https://community.ipfire.org/t/core-update-191-and-samba/13549/13 "2025-02-06T20:47:36Z")

</div>

> [@shazaam](#):
>
> /usr/lib//samba/libtalloc.so.2 `TALLOC\_2.3.5’

The more I investigate the more peculiar your error message is.

IPFire updated libtalloc in the following steps:

```auto
Core Update 173 1.3.1 to 1.3.4
Core Update 184 1.3.4 to 2.4.1
Core Update 190 2.4.1 to 2.4.2

```

So version 2.3.5 has never been built in IPFire.

I then went and looked in the [https://www.samba.org/ftp/talloc/](https://www.samba.org/ftp/talloc/) directory where the libtalloc source files are stored and version 2.3.5 has never existed.

 ![Screenshot_2025-02-06_21-38-17](https://community.ipfire.org/uploads/default/original/2X/c/ceecdbd3e77053f47d573af40d00e2818ee10d80.png)

You need to make your system give that error message and then post the complete error message as it is shown.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![shazaam](https://community.ipfire.org/user_avatar/community.ipfire.org/shazaam/32/10034_2.png) [@shazaam](https://community.ipfire.org/u/shazaam)\
**Post date:** [9 February 2025 16:23 UTC](https://community.ipfire.org/t/core-update-191-and-samba/13549/14 "2025-02-09T16:23:38Z")

</div>

Well, I reloaded a fresh 191 & all is well. I have no idea how a bad version got there. This machine was last loaded w/2.27 & a long series of updates since then,
